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		<title>Choosing a 3G phone for India</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have personally tested 4 phones, 2 from AT&#038;T and one from T-Mobile and one purchased unlocked in India. All 3 work in 3G just fine with Airtel. iPhone4, iPhone3GS, Samsung Captivate (AT&#038;T), Google Nexus S. All these devices work fine in 3G with Airtel. So long as the phone supports 2100MHz, it will do [...]
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I have personally tested 4 phones, 2 from AT&#038;T and one from T-Mobile and one purchased unlocked in India.  All 3 work in 3G just fine with Airtel.</p>
<p>iPhone4, iPhone3GS, Samsung Captivate (AT&#038;T), Google Nexus S.  All these devices work fine in 3G with Airtel.  So long as the phone supports 2100MHz, it will do 3G in India.
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<blockquote><p>Update2</p>
<p>I bricked my Samsung Captivate trying to update it to Gingerbread.  I bought a Google Nexus S (review coming later), it is a 1700 MHz+ 2100 MHz phone (T-Mobile in the US).  This also works in 3G perfectly.</p>
<p>If you are buying a US phone, you can buy any T-Mobile or AT&#038;T phone, both support 2100MHz and they will work in 3G in India.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Update</p>
<p>I have relocated to Bangalore and both my Samsung captivate (AT&#038;T 1900MHz) and my wife&#8217;s iPhone 4 (AT&#038;T 1900MHz) work on 3G with Airtel.  </p></blockquote>
<p>3G networks are broadly divided into two ranges of spectrums.</p>
<p>a)  The 1700MHz and 2100 MHz bands</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>b)  The 1900MHz bands</p>
<p>For instance, in the US, T-mobile listens on the 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz bands for 3G network.</p>
<p>AT&#038;T, on the other hand listens on the 1900 MHz band for 3G network.</p>
<p>What this means is that the phones are not inter-operable in 3G between these two carriers.  The AT&#038;T iPhone, even if unlocked, will only work in Edge network in T-Mobile.</p>
<p>Likewise, the original T-Mobile Nexus One <a href="http://gigaom.com/2010/01/11/att-nexus-one-3g/">will only work in 3G in the T-Mobile</a> Network.  It falls back to Edge in AT&#038;T.</p>
<p>Looking at the spectrums <a href="http://trak.in/tags/business/2010/05/19/3g-auction-update-spectrum-winners/">that were auctioned in India</a>, it appears that they are all in the 1900 MHz band.</p>
<p>Hence, any 3G phone that works in the AT&#038;T network in the US (1900 MHz) will work in 3G in India, whenever 3G goes mainstream.  Which sucks since a lot of the great HTC and Samsung phones are in the T-Mobile network <img src='http://blog.anands.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>If you think otherwise, please leave a comment.</p>
<p>Update:</p>
<p>Some confirmation for this <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=3559be9dafc1e87d&#038;hl=en">from a thread here</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Alright i just got off the phone with nexus one support..<br />
The T-mobile version (900/AWS/2100) WILL NOT GET 3G speeds in India/Asia/Europe since it requires the AWS band for upload which is not present in India/Asia. In india we utilize the 1900 band for upload which is clarified in the 3G spectrum auction. </p>
<p>The At&#038;t version is the one which will get 3g speeds in India and Europe which has the 850/1900/2100 band.<br />
The specifications for the iphone 850/1900/2100 are the same and we can get 3g on it in all the asian countries and europe.<br />
I have confirmed this with Google.</p>
<p>So the AT&#038;T version is the one to buy if u will be using your phone in India/Asia/Europe for 3G</p>
<p>Hope this clarifies the discussion. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>India Real Estate &#8211; can I have the same thing that every one is smoking?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is an understatement to say that the Indian Real Estate is over heating. I think it is totally insane. If you thought that SF bay area real estate was crazy, you would have to see the numbers in India. Let us take a 3 bed room apartment with a living area of 1600 sq [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an understatement to say that the Indian Real Estate is over heating.  I think it is totally insane.  If you thought that SF bay area real estate was crazy, you would have to see the numbers in India.</p>
<p>Let us take a 3 bed room apartment with a living area of 1600 sq ft in a decent location [Jaya Nagar in Bangalore or Besant Nagar in Chennai] &#8211; it runs about Rs 1.5 crores in India or ~$380,000.  I am not even talking land value, these are usually high rises that have 8+ floors.</p>
<p>Interest rates are at an all time high, at about 12.5% to 13.25% for 20 year fixed. [Yes, 12.5% is the minimum].  The max loans a bank would give you is about $250,000 [1 crore] and 20 year fixed is the max limit.  At that interest rate, provided I put down about 50 lakhs [~$125,000] and borrow about $250,000, my monthly payment is about Rs.1,10,000 [$2,750].  Working backwards, I need to make at least $75,000 per annum sitting in India  to be able to afford it.</p>
<p>Not too much of a $ saving from an outsourcing perspective, is it?  So, I don&#8217;t have a clue what the heck people who deal with real estate in India are smoking, whatever it is, I need that !</p>
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