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Choosing a 3G phone for India

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3G networks are broadly divided into two ranges of spectrums.

a) The 1700MHz and 2100 MHz bands

and

b) The 1900MHz bands

For instance, in the US, T-mobile listens on the 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz bands for 3G network.

AT&T, on the other hand listens on the 1900 MHz band for 3G network.

What this means is that the phones are not inter-operable in 3G between these two carriers. The AT&T iPhone, even if unlocked, will only work in Edge network in T-Mobile.

Likewise, the original T-Mobile Nexus One will only work in 3G in the T-Mobile Network. It falls back to Edge in AT&T.

Looking at the spectrums that were auctioned in India, it appears that they are all in the 1900 MHz band.

Hence, any 3G phone that works in the AT&T network in the US (1900 MHz) will work in 3G in India, whenever 3G goes mainstream. Which sucks since a lot of the great HTC and Samsung phones are in the T-Mobile network :( .

If you think otherwise, please leave a comment.

Update:

Some confirmation for this from a thread here:

Alright i just got off the phone with nexus one support..
The T-mobile version (900/AWS/2100) WILL NOT GET 3G speeds in India/Asia/Europe since it requires the AWS band for upload which is not present in India/Asia. In india we utilize the 1900 band for upload which is clarified in the 3G spectrum auction.

The At&t version is the one which will get 3g speeds in India and Europe which has the 850/1900/2100 band.
The specifications for the iphone 850/1900/2100 are the same and we can get 3g on it in all the asian countries and europe.
I have confirmed this with Google.

So the AT&T version is the one to buy if u will be using your phone in India/Asia/Europe for 3G

Hope this clarifies the discussion.

India Real Estate – can I have the same thing that every one is smoking?

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It is an understatement to say that the Indian Real Estate is over heating. I think it is totally insane. If you thought that SF bay area real estate was crazy, you would have to see the numbers in India.

Let us take a 3 bed room apartment with a living area of 1600 sq ft in a decent location [Jaya Nagar in Bangalore or Besant Nagar in Chennai] – it runs about Rs 1.5 crores in India or ~$380,000. I am not even talking land value, these are usually high rises that have 8+ floors.

Interest rates are at an all time high, at about 12.5% to 13.25% for 20 year fixed. [Yes, 12.5% is the minimum]. The max loans a bank would give you is about $250,000 [1 crore] and 20 year fixed is the max limit. At that interest rate, provided I put down about 50 lakhs [~$125,000] and borrow about $250,000, my monthly payment is about Rs.1,10,000 [$2,750]. Working backwards, I need to make at least $75,000 per annum sitting in India to be able to afford it.

Not too much of a $ saving from an outsourcing perspective, is it? So, I don’t have a clue what the heck people who deal with real estate in India are smoking, whatever it is, I need that !